{"id":95,"date":"2025-04-02T20:41:19","date_gmt":"2025-04-02T20:41:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.familie-kleinman.nl\/brain\/?p=95"},"modified":"2025-04-02T20:41:56","modified_gmt":"2025-04-02T20:41:56","slug":"door-to-door-sales-the-new-lying-standard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.familie-kleinman.nl\/brain\/index.php\/2025\/04\/02\/door-to-door-sales-the-new-lying-standard\/","title":{"rendered":"Door to door sales, the new &#8220;lying&#8221; standard"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For the past few years, we&#8217;ve had a sticker next to our doorbell that politely reads: <em data-start=\"788\" data-end=\"822\">&#8220;No door-to-door salespeople, please.&#8221; <\/em>It works \u2014 99% of salespeople (yes, even the polite ones in suits) see it, turn around, and leave us in peace. But then there&#8217;s a special breed of door-to-door sellers.<\/p>\n<p>The kind who think these stickers are just\u2026 suggestions. One of those pricks \u2014 sorry, I don\u2019t have a nicer word \u2014 rang our doorbell a few weeks ago.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h1>Part 1, &#8220;Bert&#8221; at the door<\/h1>\n<p>My wife opened the door. It was \u201ca KPN fiber internet guy\u201d, let&#8217;s call him Bert \u2014 not trying to <em data-start=\"426\" data-end=\"432\">sell<\/em> us anything, of course.<\/p>\n<p>No, he just wanted to <em data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"504\">\u201cgive us some advice\u201d<\/em> about our internet<\/p>\n<p>Yeah&#8230; Right.<\/p>\n<p>Then he continued his stream of lies. Apparently, our internet cable was outdated and needed to be replaced. Uhh&#8230; it&#8217;s a fiber optic cable that was installed just over ten years ago.<\/p>\n<p>And fiber is, well&#8230; ehhh fiber? It doesn\u2019t really <em data-start=\"425\" data-end=\"433\">expire<\/em>, does it? I mean \u2014 I could be wrong. But I\u2019m probably not.<\/p>\n<p>And of course \u2014 <em data-start=\"297\" data-end=\"308\">of course!<\/em> \u2014 KPN\u2019s internet was supposedly <em data-start=\"341\" data-end=\"355\">much cheaper<\/em> than the subscription we currently had.<\/p>\n<p>Spoiler alert: I checked that evening. KPN is actually <em data-start=\"455\" data-end=\"461\">more<\/em> expensive.<\/p>\n<p>My wife told him that I was \u201cin charge\u201d of our internet, and that she wouldn\u2019t make any decisions on the spot.<\/p>\n<p>The guy seemed a bit disappointed, said he\u2019d come back later that evening \u2014 which, surprise surprise, he never did.<\/p>\n<p>And that was it. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Until this Monday.<\/p>\n<h1>Part 2, &#8220;Ernie&#8221; at the door<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"210\" data-end=\"390\">I had just arrived home after work and changed into my gym clothes, ready to head out, when I spotted a guy in a green KPN jacket walking down our street.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"210\" data-end=\"390\">My immediate thought?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"419\"><em data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"419\">This could be the sequel.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"419\">And yep \u2014 after specifically targeting two of our neighbours, he walked right up to our doorstep. Unfortunately for him: I came prepared.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"419\">In hindsight, I do feel a bit sorry for the guy.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"392\" data-end=\"419\">He wasn\u2019t the same one as before \u2014 just an unlucky sequel character catching the wrath meant for his predecessor.<br \/>\nBut\u2026 ehh\u2026 <em data-start=\"586\" data-end=\"603\">sorry not sorry<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"286\" data-end=\"561\">This guy, let&#8217;s call him Ernie, started off by saying he was from KPN, and that \u2014 since KPN owns the fiber cable \u2014 they had <em data-start=\"387\" data-end=\"396\">no idea<\/em> who my current provider was. If I could just give him that information?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"286\" data-end=\"561\"><strong>Translation<\/strong>: a blatant lie, meant to extract info and launch the sales pitch from there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"563\" data-end=\"713\">I replied:<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"563\" data-end=\"713\"><em data-start=\"576\" data-end=\"713\">\u201cNo. I\u2019m not giving you that information. If your company doesn\u2019t know who\u2019s using your own network, that sounds like a you problem.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"715\" data-end=\"800\">He was visibly baffled.<br data-start=\"738\" data-end=\"741\" \/>(And yes \u2014 even <em data-start=\"757\" data-end=\"763\">this<\/em> autistic guy could pick up on that.)<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"715\" data-end=\"800\">He then tried a few different permutations of the same question. And I gave him the same answer \u2014 in the same number of permutations.\u00a0 He didn\u2019t like that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"244\" data-end=\"335\">Then he switched tactics. He asked how much we paid for our monthly internet subscription.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"244\" data-end=\"335\"><strong>Translation<\/strong>: A soft reset \u2014 back to the sales pitch.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\">Again, I gave him an evasive answer:<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\"><em data-start=\"376\" data-end=\"468\">\u201cWhy do you want to know that? I\u2019m not going to tell you. That\u2019s none of your business.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"335\" data-end=\"582\">Then he asked me why I was being so defensive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"335\" data-end=\"582\">So I told him the truth:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"335\" data-end=\"582\"><em data-start=\"411\" data-end=\"550\">A colleague of yours came by a few weeks ago and told my wife a bunch of blatant lies.<br data-start=\"498\" data-end=\"501\" \/>And frankly, I\u2019m fed up with door-to-door sales.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"335\" data-end=\"582\">(Again, he didn\u2019t like that.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"584\" data-end=\"707\">He even showed me his tablet, claiming he could see who had visited before \u2014 and that a follow-up visit had been <em data-start=\"697\" data-end=\"706\">planned<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"584\" data-end=\"707\">Because of privacy, I won\u2019t mention his real name here.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"584\" data-end=\"707\">But Ernie wasn\u2019t having it. He said he felt <em data-start=\"362\" data-end=\"372\">offended<\/em> by my behavior.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"316\" data-end=\"481\">I told him:<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"316\" data-end=\"481\"><em data-start=\"405\" data-end=\"481\">\u201cThat sounds like a you problem. Now I\u2019d like you to leave my property.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"483\" data-end=\"583\">He mumbled something about how maybe he should try the house next door.\u00a0 I confirmed his suspicion.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"483\" data-end=\"583\">Then, in one final act of awkward politeness, he reached out his right hand for a handshake.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"483\" data-end=\"583\">I refused.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"483\" data-end=\"583\">Again.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"483\" data-end=\"583\">Which, once more, seemed to genuinely startle poor Ernie.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\">And Ernie left the premises&#8230;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\">The End?!<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\">Nope! ( but in a good way )<\/p>\n<h1 data-start=\"337\" data-end=\"468\">Part 3, a decent person! @ bluesky<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"310\" data-end=\"507\">Right after the encounter, I posted a rant on Bluesky about the situation \u2014 and how I\u2019m completely fed up with door-to-door salespeople who ignore the very simple rule of <em data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"507\">\u201cread the damn sticker.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"509\" data-end=\"543\">And today\u2026 KPN actually responded! No idea who it is, but I think I\u2019m happy with the way it was handled.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-96 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.familie-kleinman.nl\/brain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Screenshot-2025-04-02-at-15-51-53-Notifications-\u2014-Bluesky.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"249\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.familie-kleinman.nl\/brain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Screenshot-2025-04-02-at-15-51-53-Notifications-\u2014-Bluesky.png 720w, https:\/\/www.familie-kleinman.nl\/brain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/Screenshot-2025-04-02-at-15-51-53-Notifications-\u2014-Bluesky-300x104.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"144\" data-end=\"263\"><strong data-start=\"144\" data-end=\"170\">Good afternoon Martin!<\/strong><br data-start=\"170\" data-end=\"173\" \/>If you\u2019ve indicated that you don\u2019t want any more visits, they\u2019re supposed to respect that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"265\" data-end=\"450\">Could you send us a DM with your postal code, house number, and the date\/time of their last visit?<br data-start=\"363\" data-end=\"366\" \/>I\u2019ll file a report and forward your request to the appropriate department this week.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"307\"><strong data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"307\">I have responded. It seems they can&#8217;t find my previous entries where I asked to be deleted from their systems, but <em data-start=\"267\" data-end=\"272\">now<\/em> they will. We&#8217;ll see about that.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"307\">The upside of the story is that I&#8217;m going to get a confirmation from them once the information has been processed \u2014 so I\u2019ll have it in writing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"150\" data-end=\"307\">I also asked why they are telling blatant lies. Apparently, it\u2019s not KPN itself who&#8217;s doing the door-to-door sales, but a separate contractor.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, KPN remains responsible. Let\u2019s hope they take real action against this contractor.<\/p>\n<h1 data-start=\"866\" data-end=\"1098\">Conclusion<\/h1>\n<p>So: two jerks, and one actual decent person. Hopefully it\u2019s fixed now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"296\" data-end=\"500\">Yes, I know.\u00a0 I <em data-start=\"313\" data-end=\"320\">could<\/em> have handled the situation differently.\u00a0 It may even sound a bit childish, the way I responded.\u00a0 I could\u2019ve been polite. I could\u2019ve just said, \u201c<em>No thanks, we\u2019re not interested.<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"707\">But here\u2019s the thing: KPN has had <em data-start=\"538\" data-end=\"548\">multiple<\/em> opportunities to respect our wish to be left alone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"707\">And they haven\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"502\" data-end=\"707\">So honestly\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"197\" data-end=\"270\">Why should I keep being polite to a company \u2014 or its contractors \u2014 that keeps ignoring that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"272\" data-end=\"381\"><em data-start=\"272\" data-end=\"381\">(And that\u2019s not even mentioning the fact that their employees and\/or contractors are simply telling lies.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"383\" data-end=\"532\">And a message to all door-to-door salesmen, women, sheep, dogs, or whatever you identify as \u2014<br data-start=\"476\" data-end=\"479\" \/><strong data-start=\"479\" data-end=\"514\">Please don\u2019t ring our doorbell.<\/strong><br data-start=\"514\" data-end=\"517\" \/><strong data-start=\"517\" data-end=\"532\">Just don\u2019t.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"265\" data-end=\"450\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For the past few years, we&#8217;ve had a sticker next to our doorbell that politely reads: &#8220;No door-to-door salespeople, please.&#8221; It works \u2014 99% of salespeople (yes, even the polite ones in suits) see it, turn around, and leave us in peace. 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